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		By: WolfieWolfgang		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The trouble is, Adam, that we are not a neutral nation and cannot suddenly become one - at least in part because of that &#034;shadow of Imperialism&#034; that you quote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t think you can side-step the nuclear threat either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question of civilian deaths is separate I think and certainly one that should be investigated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wish this war, like most others could have been avoided as easily as you suggest but we cannot detach ourselves now that any past errors in the West&#039;s attitude to Islam are beyond redemption in the eyes of the Islamasist terrorists who are allied to the Taleban.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is, Adam, that we are not a neutral nation and cannot suddenly become one &#8211; at least in part because of that &quot;shadow of Imperialism&quot; that you quote.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think you can side-step the nuclear threat either.</p>
<p>The question of civilian deaths is separate I think and certainly one that should be investigated.</p>
<p>I wish this war, like most others could have been avoided as easily as you suggest but we cannot detach ourselves now that any past errors in the West&#39;s attitude to Islam are beyond redemption in the eyes of the Islamasist terrorists who are allied to the Taleban.</p>
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		By: adam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We often base our moral judgements on personal experience. I met two soldiers from Lewes on the train to Brighton once, they were real brutes, drunk on a sense of self-importance. They insisted that I should thank them for what they had done for me in Iraq and couldn&#039;t believe I opposed them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;Where&#039;s your national pride mate?&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well I&#039;m actually not particularly proud of my country and I am not proud of the armed forces. I see a generation of aggresive louts, raised on violent video games desperate for a slice of the action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, we have gone into war in Afghanistan for good reason, it&#039;s strategically important to knock out the Taliban. Still, isn&#039;t this as much to do with controlling an oil pipeline as ensuring nuclear Pakistan remains allied to the West? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just wish that every time they published our soldiers&#039; death toll they would compare it to the number of civilians and suspected enemy fighters they had killed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are loosing this war in the way we have fought it, by indiscriminately killing every male of fighting age in suspected villages. Each of these atrocities fuels is like a recruitment drive for the enemy. Each time an innocent Afghani is martyred more turn to the extremist cause. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally I think the shadow of Empire and Imperialism hangs darkly over both of these wars and I&#039;d like to see an end to gunboat diplomacy sooner rather than later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t think terrorists have much of a track record of targeting neutral nations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We often base our moral judgements on personal experience. I met two soldiers from Lewes on the train to Brighton once, they were real brutes, drunk on a sense of self-importance. They insisted that I should thank them for what they had done for me in Iraq and couldn&#39;t believe I opposed them.</p>
<p>&quot;Where&#39;s your national pride mate?&quot;</p>
<p>Well I&#39;m actually not particularly proud of my country and I am not proud of the armed forces. I see a generation of aggresive louts, raised on violent video games desperate for a slice of the action.</p>
<p>Yes, we have gone into war in Afghanistan for good reason, it&#39;s strategically important to knock out the Taliban. Still, isn&#39;t this as much to do with controlling an oil pipeline as ensuring nuclear Pakistan remains allied to the West? </p>
<p>I just wish that every time they published our soldiers&#39; death toll they would compare it to the number of civilians and suspected enemy fighters they had killed.</p>
<p>We are loosing this war in the way we have fought it, by indiscriminately killing every male of fighting age in suspected villages. Each of these atrocities fuels is like a recruitment drive for the enemy. Each time an innocent Afghani is martyred more turn to the extremist cause. </p>
<p>Personally I think the shadow of Empire and Imperialism hangs darkly over both of these wars and I&#39;d like to see an end to gunboat diplomacy sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think terrorists have much of a track record of targeting neutral nations.</p>
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		By: WolfieWolfgang		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you Claudio.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am of a generation that often finds it too easy to be anti-war without acknowledging that sometimes, war is the only option. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was a warm welcome from the crowds as those soldiers marched past this morning but it was, as I think you imply, a confused blend of responses which I think did support &#034;our boys&#034; without accepting that they actually do need to risk their lives in Afghanistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I suspect people are also confusing the question of supplies, Defence budgets and supplies with the geo-political realities of the dangers that the world would face if nothing was done about the Taleban.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly the Pacifist Lytton Strachey&#039;s quip about what he would do if a German soldier was about to rape his sister is funny but possibly impractical in this case:I would interpose my body between them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have missed you Claudio....welcome back]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Claudio.</p>
<p>I am of a generation that often finds it too easy to be anti-war without acknowledging that sometimes, war is the only option. </p>
<p>There was a warm welcome from the crowds as those soldiers marched past this morning but it was, as I think you imply, a confused blend of responses which I think did support &quot;our boys&quot; without accepting that they actually do need to risk their lives in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>I suspect people are also confusing the question of supplies, Defence budgets and supplies with the geo-political realities of the dangers that the world would face if nothing was done about the Taleban.</p>
<p>Sadly the Pacifist Lytton Strachey&#39;s quip about what he would do if a German soldier was about to rape his sister is funny but possibly impractical in this case:I would interpose my body between them.</p>
<p>I have missed you Claudio&#8230;.welcome back</p>
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		By: Claudio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find this difficult to say, but this week&#039;s &#039;Moral Maze&#039; was actually very good for identifying the complexity of war, and our responses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like many people, there are times when I want to support the troops but not the war, but that does rely on knowledge.  I am faintly uneasy at the way some people who would criticise &#039;squaddies&#039; are now talking about &#039;our boys&#039;.  The sad fact is, if you go to war, you need - in some way - to be ready to finish it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this difficult to say, but this week&#39;s &#39;Moral Maze&#39; was actually very good for identifying the complexity of war, and our responses.</p>
<p>Like many people, there are times when I want to support the troops but not the war, but that does rely on knowledge.  I am faintly uneasy at the way some people who would criticise &#39;squaddies&#39; are now talking about &#39;our boys&#39;.  The sad fact is, if you go to war, you need &#8211; in some way &#8211; to be ready to finish it.</p>
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